Over the next week or two, I'm going to be confronting IRC channel admins from many IRC servers about internet piracy. It's going to be a sort of Watchdog-esque kind of confrontation, also. First, here's a conversation with me and a guy who is an admin of a channel of some emulation software (and I'm sorry for any spelling/grammer mistakes):
Session Start: Sun May 01 20:19:19 2005
Session Ident: alex_extreme
[20:19]
<Watchdog> why should there be double standards?
[20:19]
<alex_extreme> what do you mean?
[20:19]
<Watchdog> us not being allowed to do stuff and you being able to.,
[20:20]
<alex_extreme> i'm not doing illegal stuff. i'm just telling somebody a fact that not many illegal copies of OS X work
[20:20]
<alex_extreme> that's not illegal talk
[20:20]
<Watchdog> No, i mean the Illegal speak.
[20:20]
<Watchdog> Plus, do you condone the use if pirated software?
[20:20]
<alex_extreme> no, i don't
[20:21]
<Watchdog> Then why do you allow it?
[20:21]
<alex_extreme> i don't
[20:21]
<Watchdog> Why do you allow it to be discussed in your channel? Why do you help people with pirated copies of quality software?
[20:21]
<alex_extreme> could you please shut up
[20:22]
<alex_extreme> i don't just kick people for mentioning it
[20:22]
<alex_extreme> i only kick people if they post links to illegal stuff
[20:22]
<Watchdog> I don't say you should. But you said you don't condone it, yet you help people setup and run ILLEGALLY gained software.
[20:23]
<alex_extreme> please could you stop arguing with me?
[20:24]
<Watchdog> I'm debating with you. I'm not here to spam the channel, and the only way I can debate with you is here.
[20:24]
<alex_extreme> i don't wish to debate any more. thanks
[20:24]
<Watchdog> You help people who con companies out of their hard work to setup, run and possibly profit for pirated software.
[20:24]
<Watchdog> Sorry,
[20:25]
<Watchdog> By saying that, you have admitted defeat.
[20:25]
<Watchdog> Bye bye.
[20:26]
<alex_extreme> that's it... i will not tolerate this. good bye
[20:26]
<Watchdog> Tolkerate what?
[20:26]
<Watchdog> What am i doing wrong.
[20:26]
<Watchdog> Telling the truth?
[20:26]
<alex_extreme> you are being rude to me.
[20:26]
<Watchdog> In what way, may i ask?
[20:27]
<Watchdog> In what way am i being rude to you? If i know, I can't do it again.
[20:28]
<Watchdog> By not answering me, you are now being rude.
[20:30]
<Watchdog> Excuse me?
[20:30]
<alex_extreme> WHAT?
[20:30]
<Watchdog> In what way am i being rude to you? If i know, I can't do it again.
[20:31]
<Watchdog> You are indirectly related to piracy, you know that?
[20:32]
<alex_extreme> will you just shut up!!!!
[20:34]
<Watchdog> Not until you answer this question: You don't support piracy, yet you let it go on right under your nose. One of the channel rules is 'NO WAREZ TALK' - yet this it what goes on, sometimes. Why do you let this happen when it contradicts what you have just said?
[20:36]
<Watchdog> You're being rude, once again.
[20:36]
<Watchdog> Excuse me.
[20:39]
<Watchdog> Excuse ME!
[20:40]
<Watchdog> Don't ignore me, alex.
[20:40]
<Watchdog> Why do you let piracy go on right here?
[20:40]
<Watchdog> Why do you let people con companies out of hundreds of
a go?
[20:41] <alex_extreme> sorry, but i am ignoring you. because simply you are an immature retard who can't accept that you are guilty of software piracy yourself
[20:42] <alex_extreme> or, that you can't accept the fact that I am slightly nice, unlike you
[20:42] <Watchdog> You make me laugh, you really do. I do not own any pirated software. I am against it.
[20:42] <Watchdog> We're all nice, alex.
[20:42] <Watchdog> But, we can be too nice. Cheating companies out of money is WRONG.
[20:42] <alex_extreme> i don't just kick people for saying they downloaded tiger
[20:43] <Watchdog> As i said earlier, I don't want you to. But helping them to set it up, run it and profit from it is immoral and wrong.
[20:43] <Watchdog> And, let me say, I am not the one name-calling.
[20:43] <Watchdog> So think twice before you call me a retard.
[20:44] <alex_extreme> i didn't do that. i didn't know that he was using a pirated version until he actually said!
[20:45] <Watchdog> Yes, I'm sure he didn't tell you. I mean, having it before it's released isn't a giveaway is it.
[20:46] <alex_extreme> it is f**king released. don't you know anything?
[20:46] <Watchdog> It is released now, yes. Friday, I beleive.
[20:46] <Watchdog> He had it before then.
[20:46] <Watchdog> He came on here with it before then.
[20:46] <alex_extreme> how do you know?
[20:47] <alex_extreme> have you heard of ADC?
[20:47] <alex_extreme> Apple Developer Connection
[20:47] <alex_extreme> i have tiger. i got it from Apple
[20:47] <alex_extreme> before it was released
[20:47] <Watchdog> Did you pay for it?
[20:48] <alex_extreme> yes, because you have to pay for a subscription to ADC
[20:48] <alex_extreme> and, that gives money to Apple
[20:48] <alex_extreme> simple?
[20:48] <Watchdog> And does ****** have an ADC account?
[20:48] <Watchdog> (and what's the subscription cost? )
[20:49] <alex_extreme> $1,999 or something
[20:50] <Watchdog> And does ****** have an ADC account?
[20:51] <Watchdog> NO.
[20:51] <Watchdog> I'm not attacking your status, here, I'm attacking what you let go on.
[20:51] <Watchdog> PIRACY.
[20:52] <Watchdog> You let others leech what you have paid for (if you're telling the truth)
[20:53] <Watchdog> I will leave it at that, for tonight. Thankyou for debating with me.
Session Close: Sun May 01 20:53:40 2005
Session Start: Sun May 01 20:53:46 2005
Session Ident: alex_extreme
[20:53] Session Ident:
[20:53] <alex_extreme> and i wont debate again, thanks
[20:53] <alex_extreme> retard
[20:54] <Watchdog> Why? Because I'm right?
[20:54] <Watchdog> I'm not just debating with you, I'm debating with the entire admin lineup.
[20:54] <Watchdog> And, if you have time, pass this arguement onto them.
[20:54] <Watchdog> But you probably won't, and i understand that.
[20:54] <alex_extreme> i have already...
[20:55] <alex_extreme> i told them that you are a retard
[20:55] <alex_extreme> who won't shut up
[20:55] <alex_extreme> and all the rude stuff you say to me
[20:55] <alex_extreme> good bye
[20:55] <Watchdog> What have I said that's rude!
[20:55] <Watchdog> Please tell me.
[20:55] <alex_extreme> calling me a software thief, when it's not true
[20:55] <Watchdog> I never called you that.
[20:56] <Watchdog> Check your logs.
[20:56] <alex_extreme> yes you did
[20:56] <Watchdog> Find it in the logs and show me.
[20:56] <alex_extreme> you know perfectly well that you did
[20:56] <Watchdog> When?
[20:56] <Watchdog> Show me.
[20:57] <Watchdog> No?
[20:57] <Watchdog> I guess I didn't then.
[20:57] <alex_extreme> yes you did
[20:57] <alex_extreme> yes you did
[20:57] <alex_extreme> yes you did
[20:57] <alex_extreme> yes you did
[20:57] <alex_extreme> yes you did
[20:57] <alex_extreme> yes you did
[20:57] <alex_extreme> yes you did
[20:57] <alex_extreme> yes you did
[20:57] <Watchdog> Where?
[20:57] <Watchdog> Where?
[20:57] <Watchdog> Where?
[20:57] <Watchdog> Where?
[20:57] <Watchdog> Where?
[20:57] <Watchdog> Where?
[20:57] <Watchdog> Where?
[20:57] <Watchdog> Where?
[20:57] <Watchdog> Where?
[20:57] <alex_extreme> yes you did
[20:57] <Watchdog> Where?
[20:57] <alex_extreme> yes you did
[20:57] <alex_extreme> yes you did
[20:57] <alex_extreme> yes you did
[20:57] <alex_extreme> yes you did
[20:57] <alex_extreme> yes you did
[20:57] <alex_extreme> yes you did
[20:58] <alex_extreme> yes you did
[20:58] <alex_extreme> yes you did
[20:58] <alex_extreme> yes you did
[20:58] <alex_extreme> yes you did
[20:58] <alex_extreme> yes you did
[20:58] <alex_extreme> yes you did
[20:58] <alex_extreme> yes you did
[20:58] <Watchdog> If you can't find when and where i called you a software theif, then you have no basis for an argument.
[20:58] <alex_extreme> yes you did
[20:58] <alex_extreme> yes you did
[20:58] <alex_extreme> yes you did
[20:58] <Watchdog> And now you're going against your rules of no spamming.
[20:59] <Watchdog> If you don't support an arguement with evidense, you have no argument.
[20:59] <Watchdog> *evidence
[20:59] <alex_extreme> you are talking to nothing, so you might as well shut up
[20:59] <Watchdog> Why do you call yourself a 'nothing' ?
[20:59] <Watchdog> I'm talking to you in a mature and adult manner.
[20:59] <Watchdog> I exspect the same back.
[21:00] <Watchdog> I will leave it at that, save these logs.
[21:01] <Watchdog> I will be back, and under a different name and on a different PC and ISP.
[21:01] <Watchdog> Good day, to you.
Session Close: Sun May 01 21:01:34 2005
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